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Philip Goddard

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Errors in ring code in navbars
« on: October 22, 2017, 01:00:33 PM »
I very recently enrolled a number of pages across my five sites in a number of Webringo rings - though I have to admit that I had and still have doubts as to whether it's worthwhile because the whole Webringo system is so under-used and the rings so under-populated that it's unlikely to bring me significant traffic or improved search engine ranking.

It has come to my notice that most if not all the rings I'd enrolled in had two navbar links with defective URLs - basically just the filename, not the URL path.  I wouldn't have noticed that, but for the fact that somebody reported to me that when he clicked one of the navbar links he immediately got caught my my sites' bot trap system and got auto-banned from all my sites, and then concluded that the ring navbars were themselves bot traps!  I investigated and found that in each of the navbars two of the URLs were just /browserings.php, which of course couldn't work on anyone's system, and in my case got identified by one of my site security filters as a hacker trying to get into my sites.

I fixed the error using a global search/replace on my system, adding the missing part of the urls, but clearly there is a serious issue with the Webringo navbar code, and the latter probably all needs that same global search/replace that I did on my own computer, as do the navbars on anyone's computer.
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Re: Errors in ring code in navbars
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2017, 05:31:07 PM »
Philip,

This is odd, as we've not had any reports of this kind of behavior before.

The site was built as a refuge for a lot of Webring users who were dissatisfied with the changes at Webring, but the fact is that the whole concept of webrings is outdated and unlikely to experience a resurgence any time soon (or ever, really).

We've considered shutting the site down or selling it off or donating it to someone who might like to operate it, but it would be like handing a mustache wax factory over to someone- there's just no real interest in webrings any more, to be blunt.

So we apologize for any difficulty you may have had, it's unlikely that any of our team will want to take the time to dig into this to try and figure out what's going on. That's made even more unlikely since this is the first occurrence of this issue that we've ever had reported. I don't want to give you false hope in thinking that finding this and fixing it would be a priority. Most of the team is involved in other projects and probably won't be able to devote any time to working on this.


I very recently enrolled a number of pages across my five sites in a number of Webringo rings - though I have to admit that I had and still have doubts as to whether it's worthwhile because the whole Webringo system is so under-used and the rings so under-populated that it's unlikely to bring me significant traffic or improved search engine ranking.

It has come to my notice that most if not all the rings I'd enrolled in had two navbar links with defective URLs - basically just the filename, not the URL path.  I wouldn't have noticed that, but for the fact that somebody reported to me that when he clicked one of the navbar links he immediately got caught my my sites' bot trap system and got auto-banned from all my sites, and then concluded that the ring navbars were themselves bot traps!  I investigated and found that in each of the navbars two of the URLs were just /browserings.php, which of course couldn't work on anyone's system, and in my case got identified by one of my site security filters as a hacker trying to get into my sites.

I fixed the error using a global search/replace on my system, adding the missing part of the urls, but clearly there is a serious issue with the Webringo navbar code, and the latter probably all needs that same global search/replace that I did on my own computer, as do the navbars on anyone's computer.

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Re: Errors in ring code in navbars
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2017, 02:04:12 AM »
Thank you for your straight and honest answer, Mike - and I do understand your issue, which is really also my issue because my sites have been greatly hurt by the the great Webring decline. I did have over 90 Webring (.org/.com) memberships, and in late 2014 my busiest and most important site ( newbielink:https://www.clarity-of-being.org/index.htm [nonactive]) topped out at fluctuating widely around 600 genuine human visits per day.  Since then there was a progressive decline so that now I'm getting hardly more than half that number - actually a bit of a rise since early this year, when it was down to a third. Last year I found that Webring wasn't working, and eventually pulled all my sites from it, because using a non-functional webring system couldn't possibly be helping my traffic or search engine rankings, and I could only guess that that was a major causative factor for my sit traffic decline.

Since then I've made various improvements that should have improved my SEO, such as making all my sites https, updating all sites to HTML5 compliance, and, most recently, making all the sites 'mobile-friendly' according to Google's criteria. Then, just a few weeks ago I found Webringo, which I hadn't heard of before, so, clutching at straws, I enrolled various of my pages in some Webringo rings, but realized that the writing was on the wall for webrings generally (even the very low level of activity on this forum suggests that).

Anyway, I fully understand what you say about the defective links in the navbar code. It's actually not surprising at all to me that no-one else reported the error, because I wouldn't have been aware of it myself if it wasn't for the weird issue that I mentioned in my OP - the defective links causing anyone who clicked them to fall into my bot trap. Few other website owners would have a bad bots filter that bot-traps any visitors requesting a .php file! :-)

Anyway, thank you Mike and all others who have tried against the odds to keep webrings going. In my view, if only people would use them they are fundamentally still the best way to improve site traffic legitimately without paying through the nose for the privilege.
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Re: Errors in ring code in navbars
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2017, 01:37:29 PM »
Sadly, this evening, after trying some Webringo ring surfing from my pages that are in Webringo rings, and finding that in most cases mine were the only sites / pages that came up, I decided just now to delete all my ring memberships. I'd have hung on if Webringo were getting increasing activity generally and a fair number of other sites joining, but as it looks set to remain at more or less rock bottom as long as it exists at all, it didn't make sense for me to have ring navbars and links on any of my sites, which couldn't give a good / useful visitor experience or improve my traffic / SEO. A pity, because the general move to messing around in social media instead is bringing my sites hardly any really worthwhile traffic - just the odd little flurries of people visiting one page or another and not exploring beyond - which represents mostly low-grade traffic from people who are clearly not really interested in my sites.
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