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Please confirm that http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=1  is NOT ACTIVE
any and all Search Engines using  http://www.evrsoft.com/fastsubmit/  other then Google
 
Here is two examples that I know that it can be confirmed NOT having the URL ...
http://us.altavista.com/ 
http://www.hotbot.com/
 
look up http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=1

There is no promotion using http://www.evrsoft.com/fastsubmit/  which is in each "Ring" page.
http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?   
 
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Re: Google is about the only Search Engines working since the reopening..
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2012, 09:51:09 AM »
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http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=1
This is the Original Ring and there is no results other in search engines other then Google.   Bing, Yahoo and Ask and AOL are still having getting anything as a listing...
 
You may have the URL Disallowed in a robots.txt somewhere as it was a "test" Ring at one time.
There is two "test" sites still left that might be better to be deleted as we are using the Original Ring
at this point.
 
The test sites were The Test Site #22 (#4) with a Graphic for Galaxy Batte.com
and the other was ToastWorld.com (#3) which is http://aaaaaaa.com/

Good job with getting a Rating of 4 with Google.
 
Good job getting WebRinGO in Wikipedia!
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webring
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Re: Google is about the only Search Engines working since the reopening..
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2012, 11:13:09 AM »
You may have the URL Disallowed in a robots.txt somewhere as it was a "test" Ring at one time.

No, there's nothing blocked via htaccess or robots.txt.

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Re: Google is about the only Search Engines working since the reopening..
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2012, 11:46:41 AM »
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No, there's nothing blocked via htaccess or robots.txt.

I am seeing a problem... use this tool
http://tool.motoricerca.info/robots-checker.phtml
 
Use your robots.txt   http://www.webringo.com/robots.txt
 
Take out the 2nd line of your robots.txt ( Disallow: by itself ) and save and that should fix the problem.
 
 :)
 
The page does work!  It is right, I am using it myself...
http://tool.motoricerca.info/robots-checker.phtml
 
http://web-ring.info/robots.txt
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Re: Google is about the only Search Engines working since the reopening..
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2012, 03:14:28 PM »
I did screen capture the robot.txt  I have seen that you fix it, Thank you very much and in about 72 hrs
the search engines robots will be back ...
 
This weekend I had a newbie that was German and there is a problem somewhere and since Peter Benall
IS German It might be better to ask him to set up a German Ring using UTF-8 ...
 
Sabrina and I fixed the problem by using English ...
 
This is the same problem with
  That is wrong Hälsa, Träning och Kost  this is right  Hälsa, Träning och Kost
 
You have Peter Bendall 's email, I know he would love to help.  There is a big problem with UTF-8 ...
 
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Re: Google is about the only Search Engines working since the reopening..
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2013, 12:16:50 PM »
Update,
 
Here is the list of all the Rings that did not get listed and / or Rings that were formed before the "Lastest Rings" so that is why they were not listed.
 
I am not certain if the RingMaster of WebRingo is going to list the rings.
 
IF not, then here is the URL's of the Search Engines that will allow you to submit to get
your Ring Page in WebRingo to appear ....
 
Google: https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/submit-url?pli=1
 
Bing: http://www.bing.com/toolbox/submit-site-url
 
Yahoo: http://add.yahoo.com/fast/add
 
Aol: http://www.freewebsearch.com/aol-search-submit.html
 
Ask: There is no public submit that I know of however I have software for those
Rings that use www.web-ring.info
 
Madelyn Goodman
 
•Gen O Blog
http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=19
•Many Moons Ago
http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=4
•Beauty Culture
http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=77
•Netring Nerds
http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=22
•Recipe Central
http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=20
 
Not listed other then Google ...
 
•Searching For Your Ancestors
http://webringo.com/browsering.php?id=2
•Cozy Cottage
http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=21
•Ring Masters And Mistresses
http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=32
 
Peter Benall
 
Rings that are not listed ...
 
•Teddy Bears Ring!
http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=28
•CANALS and Inland Waterways
http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=50
•Forum Owner or Webmaster!
http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=26
•The ring that includes tips and demos for webringo.
http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=51
 
These are listed in Google only
 
•'Circus is for Ever!'
http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=25
•The Webringo Amateur Radio Net Ring
http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=29

Zeline Wright
 
Not listed
 
 •Women of the Mountains = http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=3
 
•The Classic Doo-Wop Stop = http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=31
 No Listing in Bing, Yahoo, Ask and Aol

Christmas Memories = http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=56
 
Andy Bakke
 
Not listed other then Google
 
Accordion (MP3) Worldwide
http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=6
Accordionist (USA) Entertainers
http://webringo.com/browsering.php?id=30
Christmas (WebRingo) Worldwide
http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=55
Midi (Web-Ring) Ring
http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=33
Polka (WEBRINGO) World
http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=43
Web-Ring
http://webringo.com/browsering.php?id=65
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Re: Google is about the only Search Engines working since the reopening..
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2013, 06:45:39 PM »
Here is the list of all the Rings that did not get listed and / or Rings that were formed before the "Lastest Rings" so that is why they were not listed.
 
I am not certain if the RingMaster of WebRingo is going to list the rings.

What are you talking about?? If you create a ring, it gets listed automatically. No one decides if a ring gets listed, it happens automatically.

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Re: Google is about the only Search Engines working since the reopening..
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2013, 07:26:35 PM »
You are not understanding, I have ready giving you a list of all the problems lising the Rings of WebRingo. 
 
TRY to see the problem. one at a time if needed.
 
Start here  •Women of the Mountains = http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=3

and SEE that there is NO Listing ... NO results = No Promotion  ...
 
Web-Ring does provide SEO Services and AWSTAT Reports ...
 
WebRing DOES promoted the Rings in the major Search Engines ...
 
Here is Proof...
 
Google:NMS RingMasters Web-Ring
     hub.webring.org/hub/nmsringmastersw1CachedShare Shared on Google+. View the post. You +1'd this publicly. UndoWhen you visit a Ring that interests you, click Track button to add the Ring to your Hub so you can find the Ring easily and rejoin the conversation often.
 
Bing:NMS RingMasters Web-Ring
   v.webring.com/hub?ring=nmsringmastersw1;id=12;prvw If you have a Personal Web page? Anything and everything can be a Ring from A - Z and I CAN find YOU a Web-Ring that you might enjoy! If not then provide 5 sites that ...
 
Yahoo:NMS RingMasters Web-Ring
 If you have a Personal Web page? Anything and everything can be a Ring from A - Z and I CAN find YOU a Web-Ring that you might enjoy! If not then provide 5 sites that ... v.webring.com/​hub?ring=nmsringmastersw1;id=12;prvw - Cached

Aol:NMS RingMasters Web-Ring
http://hub.webring.org/hub/nmsringmastersw1 
When you visit a Ring that interests you, click Track button to add the Ring to your Hub so you can find the Ring easily and rejoin the conversation often.
 
Ask:
   NMS RingMasters Web-Ring hub.webring.org/hub/nmsringmastersw1  When you visit a Ring that interests you, click Track button to add the Ring to your Hub so you can find the Ring easily and rejoin the conversation often.
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Re: Google is about the only Search Engines working since the reopening..
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2013, 11:31:39 PM »
You are not understanding, I have ready giving you a list of all the problems lising the Rings of WebRingo. 

I guess I'm just too dumb, Andy. Maybe that's the problem.


TRY to see the problem. one at a time if needed.

Yeah, okay Andy, I'll TRY to understand. But gee whiz, you know how stupid I am, so don't get your hopes up.

 
Start here  •Women of the Mountains = http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=3
and SEE that there is NO Listing ... NO results = No Promotion  ...

I see listing results there. I see 6 sites, with links to the pages and mouseover link text (tooltips). If the sites aren't listed in Google, that's a Google issue. We can make the pages available, after that it's Google's call whether or not they list them.



Web-Ring does provide SEO Services and AWSTAT Reports ...
WebRing DOES promoted the Rings in the major Search Engines ...

Wait a minute, aren't you the one that's always bitching about how Webring sucks and you hate them and they're all screwed up? How they mess up your sites, problems with their superbar or whatever it is, etc etc. But now they're great because they have a higher rank in Google?

Andy, this site has been submitted to all the major search engines. Whether or not they crawl the site is up to them, not to us. We can't force Google or Bing or any other search engine to list this site or its contents. Eventually the search engines will catalog here, but we can't force them to do it on our schedule. Do you understand that?

Each ring page has full meta tags for the description and keywords. All the sites you create get listed both on the front page here and in the directory listings. As I've said, you're free to do whatever promotion for your rings that you want. If you put links to WebRingo on some or all of your pages on Webring, Google would see them and rank us accordingly. But I don't have access to your pages on Webring, so I can't do that.

Seriously, half the stuff you complain about isn't actually a problem, and the other half is stuff that's not under control. The rest of the things you have problems with turns out to be you, like the whole insane debacle about how you were "unable to remove sites" from your own rings. Remember that? Remember how you were screaming about that for a week, when all you had to do was read the Help page and click a button?

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Re: Google is about the only Search Engines working since the reopening..
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2013, 03:19:56 AM »
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Start here  •Women of the Mountains = http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=3
and SEE that there is NO Listing ... NO results = No Promotion  ...
   
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I see listing results there. I see 6 sites, with links to the pages and mouseover link text (tooltips). If the sites aren't listed in Google, that's a Google issue. We can make the pages available, after that it's Google's call whether or not they list them.

 The Ring never ever got listed because your "Latest Rings" was never there till later.
 
The work list is as it is and needing your services as a Ring Master as a Webringo system.
 
W/R
It is a fact that the WebRing IS a Rating of 7-8 depending on what month it is.
 
William Bakke solve the problem with the "Surf Bar" by making a program to adjust the "Surf Bar"
and Tim Killeen himself put the other program needed (Remote) for the other half. Then the W/R
could monitor my use of the W/R and the cookies ...
 
It took about a full week but the results were great! I now CAN use the "Surf Bar" in I.E. 8, Firefox,
and Chrome.
 
As a routine of a RingMaster I get Coffee in the morning and check all the Rings. I actually use the "Surf Bar" and a tool now and it works great!
 
I have made www.web-ring.info a Partnership agreement with the WebRing about two weeks ago and
and I have moved all of wr: ringalink to wr: web-ring which was not so easy as the W/R have some
older servers that can't have some ASCII characters http://www.asciitable.com/ such as the hypen.
 
The W/R as had all other Webring systems in history have been a partner with W/R.
 
It is odd that WebRingo will be a partner with the W/R.
 
James Huggins has my pages about all of the WebRing and others ...
http://www.jamesshuggins.com/h/rng1/webring-dot-com-system.htm
 
I have been in the WebRing longer then the present owner Tim Killeen. 
 
These Ring Owners, Zeline Wright, Madelyn Goodman and Peter Bendall have at least
12+ years of experience.
 
They can all advised you about the fact that a webring is suppose to provide promotion.
That is the whole purpose of a WebRing System.  Not having proper promotion in the search
 engines will make the WebRing System to Fail.
 
SEO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization is the #1 priority at this point.
 
The work list is as is, please work on this issue.
 
If you need, I can help you as I am retired and I have the time.  However, you need to make
me back as a Global Moderator.
 
And if needed, I do have everything recorded in the Community Forums on a external hard drive
and all emails in and out if need. 
 
Witness is Zeline Wright, 918-321-3555
 
It would be a idea to get all members to join IN The Original Ring
http://www.webringo.com/browsering.php?id=1
 
The Join the W/R and make yourself know. 
 
I can do it? Then you can do it? It is not so hard to do?
 
http://web-ring.webring.com/
 
and I am working on http://webring.web-ring.info/ 
 
And you never joined http://webringo.web-ring.info/
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Re: Google is about the only Search Engines working since the reopening..
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2013, 08:48:50 AM »
It is odd that WebRingo will be a partner with the W/R.

WebRingo is not going to partner with Webring. I have no idea why you would think we would. We've not been asked and we have no real interest in doing so.


If you need, I can help you as I am retired and I have the time.  However, you need to make me back as a Global Moderator.

Why? What can you do as a Global Moderator that you cannot do right now?
 

And if needed, I do have everything recorded in the Community Forums on a external hard drive and all emails in and out if need. 
 
Witness is Zeline Wright, 918-321-3555

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. Why would your keeping an archive be of any interest?

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Re: Google is about the only Search Engines working since the reopening..
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2013, 11:29:01 AM »
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WebRingo is not going to partner with Webring. I have no idea why you would think we would. We've not been asked and we have no real interest in doing so.

That is your call, WebRingo is the only Web Ring System that didn't join with the W/R that
I know of. From System1 (Tim Killeen ) says there was 8 Web Ring System that DID have
a Partnership and I still have the email.
 
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I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. Why would your keeping an archive be
of any interest?

 
I was a Chief Engineer in the Coast Guard. When a Disaster strikes I was a temporary Warrent Officer in charge of documenting evidence that could and did end up in U.S. Courts.
 
So it is my nature to record everthing.
 
Where as been a problem with the robots.txt and you DID fixed it. However many Rings ever
never got to be listed. 

We do have a have a date when it was not listing any page of WebRing. And it doesn't matter
as long as it is been fixed ?   If you do not think that the re-listed Ring be done, then there is
a moral problem ... IT IS NOT FAIR ...
 
You made a mistake, you are human ...
So, Please go back and relist the RINGS that didn't get listed? 
 
There is a list ... I spent a day for all members of WebRingo looking at everything Ring in
Google, Bing, Aol, Ask and Yahoo.
 
Yes, there was and still is problems with the WebRing too!  However, Michael Johnson is my
Rep for wr: web-ring and Tim Killeen ( owner ) does know about the fact that the W/R as a whole is
going down the charts because the "new format" wiped out ALL the Classic URL's! 
 
I am working with Micheal to re-list all of my rings in the major search engines. 
 
So, You are not the only Webring System that as a problem listing the Rings.
 
Base on a email quote "deal with it?"  It is easier to fix the problem ....
 
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Why? What can you do as a Global Moderator that you cannot do right now?

#1 ... Everything in this Forum is *** PUBLIC *** It would be better to use *** PRIVATE *** Forum.
 
I was the man that contacted Jade, I actually requested to BE the RingMaster of WebRingo. I still have
the emails and I have my Son William as a witness that I did in fact ask to be the RingMaster.
 
TT (Madelyn Goodman) knows of this issue over a phone call. We talked about this for while and
that because of my stroke I would be better to do the background work and TT would be the mouth
piece...
 
Zeline, (Zeline Wright ) knows of this issue over a phone call. And Zeline understands the TT is the
only "able body" that could represent WebRingo.
 
I was "thinking" I was being the "RingMaster" for WebRingo ... Mike was nothing but a programmer
that did have time to update WebRingo ... and I thought after awhile we would have some training
and then we would open up!
 
That was not the case ... Mike was the Ring Master so the #1 problem Mike hated me because I
has given the ID: RingMaster
 
That should never happened!  Why to both Jade and Mike do this to me?
 
That started all the fights, and still having fights as Mike will always counter me.
 
It is in his nature...
 
It would be "nice" to be back with TT and Z and Me  because we were both in Zeline WebForum ...
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Re: Google is about the only Search Engines working since the reopening..
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2013, 12:12:35 PM »
#1 ... Everything in this Forum is *** PUBLIC *** It would be better to use *** PRIVATE *** Forum.

Why?
 
I was the man that contacted Jade, I actually requested to BE the RingMaster of WebRingo. I still have
the emails and I have my Son William as a witness that I did in fact ask to be the RingMaster.

No one is disputing that; why even mention it? Who cares?
 

Mike was nothing but a programmer that did have time to update WebRingo ... and I thought after awhile we would have some training and then we would open up!

Lol, yes, I am "nothing but a programmer". The programmer who coded ~80% of this site or more. WebRingo wasn't "updated", it was rewritten almost 100% from scratch, virtually from the ground up.


 
That was not the case ... Mike was the Ring Master so the #1 problem Mike hated me because I has given the ID: RingMaster

This may possibly be the stupidest thing you've said. I don't hate you because you had the "ringmaster" ID. That's just delusional.

Let's get something straight, Andy: I never wanted to be the ring master, I was never the ring master, and I have no interest in being the ring master here.

You asked to be the ringmaster, and Jade and I agreed. It was a disaster. You wouldn't answer questions, you wouldn't take any time to learn how to use the site, and you complained endlessly about things that weren't really problems, but were in fact due to you not having a clue what to do or how to get along. Jade finally had enough and removed your Global Moderator access because he was sick and tired of dealing with your endless bullshit. 

 
That should never happened!  Why to both Jade and Mike do this to me?

Because we've both just totally had it with you Andy. You cannot communicate, you cannot work with people, and you won't listen to anything that anyone tells you. But you expect all of us to come running on red alert whenever you feel like it. You're lucky you can still access the site, frankly.

 
#1That started all the fights, and still having fights as Mike will always counter me.
It is in his nature...

You know what's in my nature? To call bullshit when I see it. You have a lot of balls to come in here and tell me I'm "just the programmer", considering you couldn't code your way out of a wet paper bag with a chainsaw in each hand. I built most of this site, and if you don't like it you can go somewhere else. No one is forcing you to stay here.