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General WebRingo Forum / Re: Neocities and Webringo
« Last post by eunice on December 09, 2018, 09:02:13 AM »
I'm looking at Neocities now! I love the idea. There's nothing wrong with static sites. I hate the way that so many "responsive" sites are actually the same, with one large header image, some text, and three round images. There's as little text as possible, because y'know, folks on't web can't actually read.

To be honest, I was thinking of closing down my webrings as no one wants to join. Everyone's gone off to facebook instead of making lovely, creative, personal sites. But I'll have a rethink now!
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General WebRingo Forum / Re: Neocities and Webringo
« Last post by Mike on October 23, 2018, 08:26:51 PM »
We're glad you like the site. Yes, it's mostly dormant, but we'd be glad to see it active again.

If you have any suggestions we'd certainly be open to any ideas you have. :)


Now I really like this ring hub  webringo  but I'm not seeing any active ringmaster or rings where I could join.  Because no one is responding to my join requests.  I see almost no recent activity..    I would really like to see this place become active.  Webrings are a thing of the past, but I'm reviving my old retro webpages I made especially at freepages on rootsweb.  So I want to see a webring revival.  It would be nice to have this happen here.  If any one or any ringmasters see this,  I'm here to get involved in this...I'd like to see this happen.
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General WebRingo Forum / Re: Neocities and Webringo
« Last post by cappyzb on October 21, 2018, 08:28:55 PM »
Neocities sounds good, but I'm Leary of joining them because every free webhosting site has closed my account accept for one, and that is the freepages.rootsweb site. And they closed down because their system got hacked, but they brought all the pages back online.  They are the only one left that hasn't closed my free accounts down, so I'm sticking with them.  I'ts been like around 2000 that I've been with them. 
 
I like The indieweb org folks but their emoji codes don't work on my sites, and I haven't figured out a hack for the emoji  code they require in their links.  There is a hack for the emoji icons but I'm not that great a hacker, so I haven't figured it out yet.

 Now I really like this ring hub  webringo  but I'm not seeing any active ringmaster or rings where I could join.  Because no one is responding to my join requests.  I see almost no recent activity..    I would really like to see this place become active.  Webrings are a thing of the past, but I'm reviving my old retro webpages I made especially at freepages on rootsweb.  So I want to see a webring revival.  It would be nice to have this happen here.  If any one or any ringmasters see this,  I'm here to get involved in this...I'd like to see this happen.
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General WebRingo Forum / Re: Neocities and Webringo
« Last post by BEnslen on August 02, 2018, 11:13:18 AM »
Wow.  Hats off to you for custom coding it and running it all these years.

Thank you for keeping this site going, I would hate for the last ringhost to disappear.
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General WebRingo Forum / Re: Neocities and Webringo
« Last post by Mike on August 02, 2018, 09:52:59 AM »
Thanks for letting me know about that, and for adding us to that page. The indieweb.org folks are more than welcome to come and set up shop here if they'd like.

I've not followed the topic or the overall web ring stuff; I run this site as a favor to some long-time users who fled Webring. I'd consider transferring the site to someone who would continue to run and maintain it, but it's a low priority for me at the moment.

Aside from the forum, the site is all custom coded. I built it as an alternative to Webring, which had gotten pretty dreadful as they made 'improvements' to it.


Hi Mike,

Also, I don't know if you are aware, but the Indieweb movement is discussing a "Webring revival".  Some info here: indieweb.org/webring

I added webringo.com to the list on that page.  Frankly, I think Indieweb folks are more interested in coding their own, but if they make webrings in general, popular again you might be in a good position to gain some users among people like me who don't code.

I hope you don't mind, I just thought I'd let you know about some trends.
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General WebRingo Forum / Re: Neocities and Webringo
« Last post by BEnslen on July 31, 2018, 11:54:34 AM »
Hi Mike,

Also, I don't know if you are aware, but the Indieweb movement is discussing a "Webring revival".  Some info here: indieweb.org/webring

I added webringo.com to the list on that page.  Frankly, I think Indieweb folks are more interested in coding their own, but if they make webrings in general, popular again you might be in a good position to gain some users among people like me who don't code.

I hope you don't mind, I just thought I'd let you know about some trends.
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General WebRingo Forum / Re: Neocities and Webringo
« Last post by Mike on July 30, 2018, 06:37:11 PM »
Thanks, I'll check it out. :)


Have Webringo management looked at Neocities.org?  It seems to me that webrings and Neocities websites are made for each other, except all those Neocities webmasters don't know about Webringo.  (Both Webring and Ringsurf are malfunctioning when somebody tries to register.  I think you are the last ring host fully functioning.)

Anyway, it might be worth sending an email to Neocities asking to be listed in any webmaster resource lists, if they have one.  It seems to be too good of an opportunity to pass up.

Just a thought.
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General WebRingo Forum / Neocities and Webringo
« Last post by BEnslen on July 28, 2018, 03:37:40 PM »
Have Webringo management looked at Neocities.org?  It seems to me that webrings and Neocities websites are made for each other, except all those Neocities webmasters don't know about Webringo.  (Both Webring and Ringsurf are malfunctioning when somebody tries to register.  I think you are the last ring host fully functioning.)

Anyway, it might be worth sending an email to Neocities asking to be listed in any webmaster resource lists, if they have one.  It seems to be too good of an opportunity to pass up.

Just a thought.
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Technical Issues Forum / Re: Errors in ring code in navbars
« Last post by Philip Goddard on October 23, 2017, 01:37:29 PM »
Sadly, this evening, after trying some Webringo ring surfing from my pages that are in Webringo rings, and finding that in most cases mine were the only sites / pages that came up, I decided just now to delete all my ring memberships. I'd have hung on if Webringo were getting increasing activity generally and a fair number of other sites joining, but as it looks set to remain at more or less rock bottom as long as it exists at all, it didn't make sense for me to have ring navbars and links on any of my sites, which couldn't give a good / useful visitor experience or improve my traffic / SEO. A pity, because the general move to messing around in social media instead is bringing my sites hardly any really worthwhile traffic - just the odd little flurries of people visiting one page or another and not exploring beyond - which represents mostly low-grade traffic from people who are clearly not really interested in my sites.
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Technical Issues Forum / Re: Errors in ring code in navbars
« Last post by Philip Goddard on October 23, 2017, 02:04:12 AM »
Thank you for your straight and honest answer, Mike - and I do understand your issue, which is really also my issue because my sites have been greatly hurt by the the great Webring decline. I did have over 90 Webring (.org/.com) memberships, and in late 2014 my busiest and most important site (Self-Realization & Clear-Mindedness) topped out at fluctuating widely around 600 genuine human visits per day.  Since then there was a progressive decline so that now I'm getting hardly more than half that number - actually a bit of a rise since early this year, when it was down to a third. Last year I found that Webring wasn't working, and eventually pulled all my sites from it, because using a non-functional webring system couldn't possibly be helping my traffic or search engine rankings, and I could only guess that that was a major causative factor for my sit traffic decline.

Since then I've made various improvements that should have improved my SEO, such as making all my sites https, updating all sites to HTML5 compliance, and, most recently, making all the sites 'mobile-friendly' according to Google's criteria. Then, just a few weeks ago I found Webringo, which I hadn't heard of before, so, clutching at straws, I enrolled various of my pages in some Webringo rings, but realized that the writing was on the wall for webrings generally (even the very low level of activity on this forum suggests that).

Anyway, I fully understand what you say about the defective links in the navbar code. It's actually not surprising at all to me that no-one else reported the error, because I wouldn't have been aware of it myself if it wasn't for the weird issue that I mentioned in my OP - the defective links causing anyone who clicked them to fall into my bot trap. Few other website owners would have a bad bots filter that bot-traps any visitors requesting a .php file! :-)

Anyway, thank you Mike and all others who have tried against the odds to keep webrings going. In my view, if only people would use them they are fundamentally still the best way to improve site traffic legitimately without paying through the nose for the privilege.
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